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  What was the "Pecking order" in your congro??

  by karter in

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  in my old congro the p.o's wife came 1st before anyone and i mean anyone!!.

  karter..

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  I always hear how the elders wife's are the queen, top dog, the one really in charge at the hall, etc.

  I do not know what was wrong with me but as an elders wife I was put down, treated like crap, etc. It was horrible, Other elders wives would not speak to me period, they had their cliques and I WAS NEVER INCLUDED. One time my husband gave a talk out and he was in his circle talking to the elders from that hall and I was just standing there feeling like an idiot and then I looked around and there were groups of other women at least two and they were talking and then looking at me and then back to talking. Not one came toward me to say hi, I felt like I was in jr. high school again. Sometimes I would approach them and try to introduce myself and they would just stair at me and not even acknowledge me. Hello I am standing right in front of them. It was totally crazy and I honestly do not to this day know why.

  When they would call for an elder's meeting after the meeting it was HELL. The other wife's would huddle in groups and I would just stand there feeling stupid. Sometimes these emergency meetings would go on for an hour or more. There were many nights that we did not get home until after midnight or latter.

  I hated being an elder's wife.

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  Types attracted to the sect known as jehovahs witnesses.

  by atomant in

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  l have observed the types of people attracted to the sect are many times unbalanced,unstable,emotionally insecure types.the jdubs seem to home in like vulchers circling the prey ,preying on the vulnerables.they tried it on me when my father who was an elder died.promising that if you become a dub you will one day see him again.l said how can you promise that when you keep making false misleading predictions.l was wondering if others have observed this phenomenon.

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  Yep that was what always got me was how many mentally ill there were. And to make these poor people go door to door to recruit others after they get done love bombing them is criminal.

  I have been door to door with mentally ill people who are hearing voices and selling door to door stresses them out so badly that they are shaking like a leaf. It is beyond embarrassing to be standing at the door when a householder opens it and this totally mentally ill person stumbles and shakes telling the person that that have to become a JW or else die. Almost all of the mentally ill people I was around INSISTED that they TAKE ALL THE DOORS. I do not know what was with that but they would get so wigged out if I did not let them that it was just easier to go with the flow and look stupid to strangers at the door then to have to spend the day with a crazy person mad at me.

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  Brooklyn news on sending the elderly packing

  by I am a Bible Student in

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  johnny the bethelite on this program talks about the older bethelites being targeted by watchtower.they are getting rid of those at bethel who are 65-87 years old, some being anointed even the widows of former governing body members who gave decades of loyal service time to the watchtower organization.. the reasons the very elderly are being expelled are money in that for their age range they cost so much to cloth, fed, and medicate, having problems from high blood pressure to dementia.

  they include persons such as sister henschel whose husband had been a watchtower president and marian sydlik whose parents are long dead.. https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/jan-16-2016-johnny-the-bethelite-watchtower-insider-host-his-radio-program-from-brooklyn-ny .

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  i really hate this kind of sensational talk. I was at Bethel and there is no way that I could ever believe that they would send ones like Marian Sydlik and Henschel's wife out in the street.

  They may be heartless but not that heartless. Stuff like this being promoted as the truth only makes it harder for those of us who know the ttatt to help get our families out. There is so much wrong with the religion that is provable that to spread stupid gossip about them kicking a 92 year old wife on the sidewalk who is deaf and blind and has dementia only makes us look crazy. I just wish it would stop.

  Seacher is so right when he said

  Definitely requires verifiable proof before any of us can repeat such atrocities to our still-in family etc.

  Otherwise, it will only serve to reinforce their opinions of "apostates on the web."

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  New here

  by MarkofCane in

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  hello and thanks to everyone for participating on this forum it has really been of much value, for those of you that post here know that your words are not lost you never know who is reading your expressions, lives are being changed and nonsense challenged.

  i’m not much of a writer so excuse my untrained writing style and grammar but i want to share my story to help anyone who is visiting here to see that we are real people, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters who have come here for answers, there is no agenda, just searching for truth.

  i hope my story will help others as so many here have helped me..

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  life is to short

  Welcome. I know where you are coming from, once you know ttatt there is no going back no matter how much you wish you could. Sometimes I truly wish I could as life just seemed simpler in many ways but it was all a lie and better to find out now than even latter in life. Glad you found this place it saved me just to know I was not alone in my awaking was huge.

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  The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

  by redpilltwice in

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  well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

  thank you all for the encouraging replies.

  one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

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  Welcome and thank you for your insight.

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  How could i have ever let myself get involved with this cult? pains me when i think about it.

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  when i think about where i am at now in my life, in my marriage, with my kids.

  why did i get involved with this cult?

  i have brought out the cult personality in my wife and there no turning her back.

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  i hate my wife for what she has become. when she is her authentic self, i love her with every once of energy, every breath. when she is in cult mode. i loath her. i want my wife back, i want my family back...i want time back,

  I can so relate to what you wrote there. I would never have married my husband if he had been in his cult mode when we dated. When we dated I thought he cared about me and my feelings and wants, etc. That we could be a couple, a team in marriage. I bought into the JW'sm but I put my family first and the religion second.

  As soon as we got married he was all cult mode, 'you should have never married an elder if you did't want to live this way' was what he told me.

  I just never had any clue or indication that being married to an elder meant that I was second at best most of the time third or fourth or firth when it came to the religion. There was just no way for me to know it. Even now looking back I still do not think I could have predicted it.

  I just feel so much like I wasted my life, so I totally get where you are coming from I am so sorry. It is the worst feeling.

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  Bethel layoffs of oldies

  by I am a Bible Student in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is this true?

  has anyone heard of it?

  saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.

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  bolndie

  You would think that the congregations would want to help them after all they gave up their lives for this religion but that was not the case with that older couple I knew. In fact they sent a letter to all the close by halls asking to help this couple and during the service two elders had verbal war about whether it was proper and one elder said how do we know if this couple is deserving. Maybe because they spent their whole life at Bethel? It was amazing to watch.

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  Using your car in service and still the GB asking for money

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i listen to dave ramsey while i work.

  he is that financial guy who hates debt.

  i agree with 90 percent of what he says.

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  Doc

  I did't mean anything personally about you and there were a few in some halls who were like you where they used their cars all the time, usually the CoBE and other elders would always go with them in service. There was this one new elder who moved in and had this great well paying job. In all honestly he was really nice guy who I feel sorry for, Looking back I truly think he knew tttatt but was just stuck.

  Anyway the way the other elders sucked up to him it was just was amazing to watch. I think a huge part of my problem was that my husband truly believed it was the "truth" and tried to live it and the other elders just did not want to deal with mentally ill people which every hall had, so we got them all. I myself did not know how to deal with them also.

  I remember being out in service and spending an hour stuck in the car with a brother who was hearing voices. How do you deal with that? It just took it's toll on me. I was stuck in a no win zone. I totally got where my husband was coming from that these people needed help and needed to feel wanted but taking them door to door was not the answer. It just put more stress on their mental problems.

  My husband and I tried to live what we thought was the truth. I look back and so wish I would have spoken up, but it probably would have meant my marriage and everything I had, which I know now was nothing. I have no family outside and I now know a huge part of it was that I just felt stuck.

  It's just now hearing the GB ask for money all the time and knowing how broke we were and we never asked for money or talked out our finances so no one knew. I a sure everyone thought we were doing fine.

  I just look back with such regret now with how the religion is going and how much I gave up.

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  Bethel layoffs of oldies

  by I am a Bible Student in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is this true?

  has anyone heard of it?

  saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.

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  I know where I live in the about 08 lay off that they had at Bethel a couple I personally knew from who were in their early 60's were let go. This is in the Northwest part of the US. They were assigned to where her sister lived about 70 miles from us.

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  Using your car in service and still the GB asking for money

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
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  i listen to dave ramsey while i work.

  he is that financial guy who hates debt.

  i agree with 90 percent of what he says.

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  Oh yeah OG that was the other thing that TOTALLY got to me. Not only was I DRIVING MY CAR but then they complained. Seriously!!!

  We always got used cars no way could we afford a new one though it was suggested that we should and just put it on payments. Yeah that would work we were making at the most $600.00 a month and putting $300.00 into gas driving around so yeah a 250.00 a month payment would to totally doable what was I thinking we could pay rent and eat on the ext $50.00 how selfish was I. Seriously! These people just made me crazy with how rude and hateful they were.

  So anyway this one car of ours had the knob to the heat upside down but it worked fine. It was a HUGE discussion in every car group that we had, it just bugged most of those riding with us to now end. Why did it matter? I asked and asked for them to stop missing with it as I was afraid they would break it, then one day I got into the car and in all honestly someone had fixed it right, we had tried ourselves and couldn't but it just frosted me that even though it was on right that they had been playing around with it when I clearly had asked them to just leave it alone, it worked was all the mattered and it was just a stupid nob so what if it was upside down it did not matter to us so LEAVE it alone!!!

  Then of course because I was just the lowly wife and if my husband was driving and we had any male in the car did't matter what age the male had to sit in the front and I HAD TO SIT IN THE BACK. Just the way it was because of my gender.

  This one pompous elder was the one who usually sat in the front and he LOOOOOOOVED it HOT and I mean baking hot. Oh my word it was so miserable with that blasting into the back seat. It did not matter how I felt because men were in charge, I got my feelings so hurt so badly but no one cared, including my husband.

  Then we had this car with a broken cup holder in the back and I asked and asked and asked that they not use it so this one time I go to clean the car and the cup holder is just thrown on the floor, I knew who did it. Seriously they could not even apologize?

  Don't even get me started on them slamming the doors and letting their kids write on the back seats, etc it was just like we were a free taxi.

  I just hated how rude they were. It was just so crazy.

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